Assassins Creed 2 Ending discussion {SPOILERS}

[PsyM0nkey]

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Cool, so thats out the way, whats your take on the ending? Where do you think it will go from here? What do you think of the overall story so far?

The story was far more intriguing than the first one, and the highlight of the story was the Patient 16 files. Really enjoyed those! And the video you unlock with Adam & Eve with the Apple is quite interesting...

Though im quite dissapointed with the FINAL scene. wasnt as awesome as AC1's end of game moment.

I personally would like the game to go to the East now, somewhere around China. Im sure there is alot of story and politics they can get from there, and the setting and scenery would be awesome.

anyways, whats your thoughts!

[Dark Soul]

oh the end scene.. i thought you were talking about Subject 16 encoded message...

i'd like for Ac 3 to be set in Africa.. most like egypt

[PsyM0nkey]

Originally Posted by Dark Soul oh the end scene.. i thought you were talking about Subject 16 encoded message... i'd like for Ac 3 to be set in Africa.. most like egypt

Nah Egypt is boring, and too closely set to the previous 2 games.

China was rife with Assassins/ninjas in the years gone and there was big power conflicts within the areas...

Though while China would be cool, I dont quite see how Ezio's and Altairs bloodline will get there...?

[Dark Soul]

Asia is too far off.. italy and jerusalem are quite close... it would be cool if the next one are set in Portugal, Spain or even Greece

[PsyM0nkey]

But Spain and Greece are too close to Italy isnt it?

I just want them to keep evolving the art direction settings. Would be nice if each game explored a different Style and different cultures/history. Dont want them all set in Europe..

[Dark Soul]

Originally Posted by PsyM0nkey But Spain and Greece are too close to Italy isnt it? I just want them to keep evolving the art direction settings. Would be nice if each game explored a different Style and different cultures/history. Dont want them all set in Europe..

But Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece all are different.... where you want them to set it.. in a group of vikings... that wouldnt be too bad

[PsyM0nkey]

Hmm.. some people also reckon London might be a possible next location for the series...

As far as the Subject 16 video is concerned, it seems as if there was a superior race that inhabitated Earth YEARS ago (the same species you meet in the vault), and they used humans as slaves.
And the beings, and humans, were all set up in a place called E.D.E.N. And Adam & Eve were 2 slaves/subjects/humans that escaped E.D.E.N. with a piece of the Apple. That somehow brought the destruction of Eden and so the 'Assassin lineage' began.
Also someone pointed out that 'Adam's' voice is the same as Desmonds. So either Desmond is long descendant of Adam, or Nolan North just did a bit of filler voice work..!

[Dark Soul]

Originally Posted by PsyM0nkey Hmm.. some people also reckon London might be a possible next location for the series... As far as the Subject 16 video is concerned, it seems as if there was a superior race that inhabitated Earth YEARS ago (the same species you meet in the vault), and they used humans as slaves. And the beings, and humans, were all set up in a place called E.D.E.N. And Adam & Eve were 2 slaves/subjects/humans that escaped E.D.E.N. with a piece of the Apple. That somehow brought the destruction of Eden and so the 'Assassin lineage' began. Also someone pointed out that 'Adam's' voice is the same as Desmonds. So either Desmond is long descendant of Adam, or Nolan North just did a bit of filler voice work..!

The hologram or whatever you fnd in the end scene says someting then she mention desmond and leaves.. so ypur theory might be correct

[PsyM0nkey]

Oh, and for those who missed it.... Altair and Ezio were both stabbed in the same place during the course of each of their games. So we can only assumer Desmond has the same scar on him.

It is also interesting to note that apparantly Jesus was also stabbed in the same way. And since the game was quite heavily centred around the coming of a 'Prophet', I wonder how far out it would be to assume that Jesus has some sort of role to play in the heritage of Desmond and his heritage before then? hmmm...
Obvioulsy we wouldnt play as Jesus (lol), but might find out that he was a pivotal figure in the Assassin Lineage....?

[PsyM0nkey]

OK, some more trivia for you guys...

Im guessing alot of you have done the Subject 16 files. And if you have, you probably wouldve noticed alot of extra 'details and codes' that dont seem to be important. Well some people think they are, so here are some theories and decipherings....

So I've been going back through all of the Truth puzzles, remembering some hidden ciphers within some of the photos. In "INFINITE KNOWLEDGE", the puzzle at Torre Del Diavolo in Tuscany, there is a series of 3 photos, the first hides a block of text that was hexadecimal, decrypted to "Antikythera Mechanism, much older than 150 B.C.E.". The second picture contained a block of decimal, decrypted as "Ancient city, Rajasthan, irradiated by PoE". The third picture contained a block of binary, decrypted as "Sumerian. Me 23." (Note that I may have wrote down the binary string corresponding to the 'M', and I believe it would make more sense as a 'P', but can't find any flaws). Anyways, I did a quick google search and I'm not sure if you guys know this, but the Antikythera Mechanism was the world's first calculator / astronomical device found. However, what is more interesting is a piece of info on Rajasthan that I found: "Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built. For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region. Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945. The Mahabharata clearly describes a catastrophic blast that rocked the continent. "A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe...An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor...it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race. "The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out, pottery broke without any apparent cause, and the birds turned white. "After a few hours, all foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves into the river." " You can read this at here Pretty cool stuff, a historical documenting of a 12,000 year old nuclear blast. Kudos Ubisoft, for doing your homework for weaving an intriguing conspiracy.

And just to add, I found out the significance of "Sumerian. Me 23." Apparently "Me"s are decrees of old Sumerian mythology given to represent various relations between gods and mankind... the 23rd Me is the decree of "weapons". A bit cryptic, but the single word "weapons" was the only thing I could find for this 23rd Me. Well, I guess it fits into the whole plotline quite well.

The morse code in one picture reads, ''Templar texts adapted by mr. smith''

i take it people also noticed the numbers at the bottom of the barcode. it reads 12212012 which if split in the american dating system reads the 21st december 2012 (the apparant end of the world!!!)

Actually, I've been decoding these secret messages myself. I have thus far found three. The first that I found was a block-type code that I have used myself, but I don't know what shape they use to represent the letter 'A'. It was written across the surface of the moon in the clue that you had to "Find the Eagle". The second that I found was in a picture of Nicola Tesla in his lab and was a simple letter cipher. That one read "JG WUGF KV VQ FGXGNQR C DQVVQONGUU UQWTEG QH GPGTIA. VGNGHWPMGP YKTGNGUU UVCVKQP." The key is given in the Tesla coil itself C=A. Thus translated, it reads, "He used it to develop a bottomless source of energy. Telefunken wireless station." Then, I found a series of Morse code in a picture of Thomas Edison which I just finished translating. Line 1 - .... . -.-- ..- ... . -.. .. - - --- -- .- -.- . They used it to make Line 2 - . ... .-.. .- --. --- .. -. ... .- -. . - .... . Tesla go insane the Line 3 --- .-. --. .- -. .. --.. .- - .. --- -. - --- --- -.- Organization took Line 4 .... .. ... .-. . ... . .- .-. -.-. .... .- .-.. .. . -. His research alien Line 5 .--. .-. --- .--. . .-. - -.-- -.-. ..- ... - --- -.. .. .- -. Property custodian Line 6 --- ..-. ..-. .. -.-. . Office "They used it to make Tesla go insane. The Organization took his research. Alien property custodian office." Pretty cool stuff if you ask me.

I remember I found the one with the Bunker Hitler died in, after the letter saying that he was to shoot his double and escape with the Piece of Eden. The legend was A=H and I decyphered it to say, and I'm paraphrasing because I did this on Monday. "The Double was killed in the bunker" Which either implies that Hitler survived the war and was a Templar, or that Hitler was later killed by Assassins. However this seems to be the only case in the videos where a person with a Piece of Eden who lost. Although that may have been the plan all along. OR Hitler is still alive and has a Piece of Eden. So you know....watch out.